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Monday, October 2, 2017

Where Some Deleted Scenes Fit Into the Movie

In my recent article The Mandela Effect and Dirty Dancing, I linked to the following YouTube video.


The video shows an inquiry from a woman who has watched the movie many times but recently was surprised when she watched it yet again and saw several scenes that she did not remember seeing before. She wondered whether she was experiencing a false memory -- in other words, was experiencing the Mandela Effect.

In this article, I will call the above video "the Mandela Effect video".

When I watched this video, it was obvious to me that she had watched a movie version in which several deleted scenes have been restored. Perhaps this version was on an illegal bootleg DVD or perhaps on a legal special-edition DVD. The man talking with the woman in the video should have clarified the source of the Manela Effect video.

The conversation and examples in the Mandela Effect video show where the deleted scenes fit into the movie. For me, that was very interesting, because I often wondered where those scenes were supposed to be. The characters' clothing confirm that the scene placements are correct in the restored movie.

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Here is a YouTube video that has assembled the deleted scenes. Below is a timeline that I wrote for my previous article.


0:00 - 0:55 = Baby Houeman sees Johnny Castle caressing a woman in the forest at night

0:56 - 3:10 =  Baby, in her underwear, dances erotically with Johnny

3:11 - 4:16 = Baby and Johnny practice dancing in front of a mirror

4:17 - 5:11 = The Houseman family votes to go to Kellerman's resort

5:12 - 6:01 = Baby and Lisa Houseman primp in front of mirrors in their bedroom

6:02 - 6:22 = Lisa says that Baby is weird but "better than me"

6:23 - 7:12 = Johnny puts his luggage into his car trunk and says goodbye to Penny

7:13 - 8:16 = Resort guests, dressed up, dance in the gazebo

8:17 - 9:02 = Baby talks with her mother about breaking up with a boyfriend

9:03 - 11:02 = The resort comedian tells a series of jokes

11:03 - 12:09 = Baby listens to her father warn her about bad boys

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Now I will discuss how only some of those scenes fit into the movie. I will not discuss the scenes when I think that the original placement and significance are already obvious to my readers.

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0:00 - 0:55 = Baby sees Johnny caressing a woman in the forest at night

That scene happens as Baby is strolling at night and is about to encounter Billy Kostecki, who is carrying watermelons. In the Mandela Effect video, the discussion of this scene begins at 5:30.

After Baby sees Johnny caressing the woman, he runs off, and Baby walks after Johnny who is running ahead. Perhaps Baby now is following Johnny, or perhaps she simply is continuing her stroll in her same direction as previously

Right before she encounters Billy, the movie audience (perhaps not Baby too) sees Johnny walking up an outside stairs toward the employees' bunkhouse, from the outside windows of which lights can be seen shining and music can be heard playing.

Baby's clothing in the deleted scene in the forest matches the clothing she will be seen wearing when she subsequently joins the "dirty dancing" party in the employees' bunkhouse.

Baby's clothes in the deleted forest scene.
Johnny, wearing a tuxedo, is uphill on the path.
Baby wearing the same clothes
when she encounters Billy.
Johnny is wearing his ballroom tuxedo in the forest. When he subsequently arrives with Penny Johnson at the "dirty dancing" party, he has removed his tuxedo's jacket and bow tie but still is wearing the same shirt and pants.

Johnny wearing a tuxedo in the deleted forest scene
Johnny wearing his tuxedo's shirt and pants
when he arrives at the "dirty dancing" party.
If the deleted scene had been left in the movie, then Baby's apprehension about Johnny at the subsequent "dirty dancing" party would have been enhanced. Baby would have perceived Johnny to be a Casanova who was sexually involved with the hotel's female guests in addition to his apparent involvement with Penny.

More generally, Baby would have perceived that the resort was a sexual playground for many of the employees and guests. Baby's seeing Johnny kissing a female guest would have reinforced her previously seeing Max Kellerman telling his young male employees to romance the female guests. Baby herself, however, had not been experiencing this sexual playground so far during her vacation.

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5:12 - 6:01 = Baby and Lisa Houseman primp in front of mirrors in their bedroom

This scene was not discussed in the Mandela Effect video, but Lisa's clothing indicates that the scene happens before the Houseman family goes to their first-night dinner and are introduced to Robbie Gould.

Lisa wearing a blue dress in the deleted scene

Lisa wearing the same blue dress in the movie's dinner scene
This deleted scene originally was placed right after the scene in which Baby overheard Max Kellerman telling the waiters to romance the guests' daughters and in which she saw Johnny for the first time.

In the deleted scene, Baby is seen tightening her bra straps in order to lift her breasts higher. So, she would like to attract some male attention during her vacation, which is just beginning.

Baby overhears Max Kellerman telling
his male employees to romance the guests' daughters

In the following scene, which has been deleted,
Baby tightens her bra straps to lift her breasts.
The deleted scene ends with Lisa coming into the bathroom and seeing Baby enhancing her bust's shape. Lisa smirks because Baby usually poses as a young woman who is not interested in male attention. Therefore Baby pushes Lisa out of the bathroom.

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6:02 - 6:22 = Lisa says that Baby is weird but "better than me"

This scene is discussed at about 17:00  in the Mandela Effect video.

Lisa knows that Baby did not come back to their hotel room during the night. In my opinion, Lisa already has snitched to their father. Baby does not know that for sure, but she does know that Lisa already had threatened -- on Thursday evening while going into the bingo game -- to snitch about Baby's sneaky behavior. On that Thursday-evening, Baby had threatened in return to lie about Lisa.

Now Lisa and Baby are going to meet their parents for breakfast. Baby is apologizing to Lisa for her threat to lie about her. Baby is apologizing because she fears that Lisa will snitch that Baby did not sleep in their hotel room. Baby's apology is too late, because their father already has decided that the family will leave the resort a day early.

In this deleted scene, Lisa is merciless toward Baby, because she had thought that "Baby is better than me" in regard to sexual activities with men. Perhaps by this time Baby already has confessed to Lisa that she indeed did spend the night with Johnny and had even dry-humped him.

The placement of this deleted scene in the movie is confirmed by Baby's and Lisa's clothing.

In the deleted scene, Lisa is carrying a floral sweater
and her hair is decorated with a large, white bow. 

In the movie's breakfast scene, Lisa is wearing the floral sweater
and her hair is decorated with the same large, white bow.
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7:13 - 8:16 = Resort guests, dressed up, dance in the gazebo

This deleted scene is not discussed in the Mandela Effect video.

Now that I review that scene along with the other deleted scenes, I wonder if the woman (who looks like Eleanor Bergstein) dancing with Johnny is the same woman who was seen with him in the deleted forest scene.


Johnny dancing with an unknown woman in a deleted scene

Johnny embracing an unknown woman in another deleted scene
If both deleted scene show the same unknown female character, there might have been an entire subplot -- involving Johnny and this unknown female character -- that has been removed from the story.

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8:17 - 9:02 = Baby talks with her mother about breaking up with a boyfriend


According to the Mandela Effect video, this deleted daughter-mother scene had been placed right after the daughter-father scene that the movie shows happening on the porch overlooking the lake.

This daughter-father scene is right before the deleted scene
where Baby's mother tells about her own young romance. 
This daughter-mother scene followed right after
the daughter-father scene.
Although the deleted daughter-mother scene follows immediately, this scene apparently takes place on the following day. The daughter-father scene takes place during dusk, but the daughter-mother scene takes place in broad daylight.

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11:03 - 12:09 = Baby listens to her father warn her about bad boys

This deleted scene is not discussed in the Mandela Effect video.

Baby's clothing indicates, however, that this deleted scene might have taken place right after she said goodbye to Johnny and he drove away. In both scenes she is wearing the same skirt, but her blouse is somewhat different.

Baby's clothing in the deleted scene where
she talks with her father in his bedroom


However, if you watch the below video clip, you will see that after Johnny departed, Baby went to her hotel bedroom, where (beginning at 1:40) she has removed her blouse and is sitting in only her bra on top. Therefore, she might have put on the same skirt and the second blouse and then gone to talk with her father in his bedroom, in the scene that has been deleted.


My best guess, though, is that the slightly different blouse is simply a continuity error that the wardrobe crew hoped would not be noticed. If so, then the deleted scene originally took place immediately after Johnny drove away.

4 comments:

  1. I have a question on the bedroom scene... I swear When I was growing up it was different... Like in order for TV to televise it, they had to cover Baby up more.

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  2. I have also seen the movie with the deleted scenes it was on the Oxygen network many years ago . I loved it with the extra scenes and have been trying to find it ever since

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  3. I have also seen the movie with the deleted scenes it was on the Oxygen network many years ago . I loved it with the extra scenes and have been trying to find it ever since

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  4. I thought I was losing it. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed!!!

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