How far did Lisa and Robbie go sexually?
How far did Baby and Johnny go sexually?
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On the night of Friday August 30, Baby and Lisa Houseman are lying in their beds in their hotel room. They talk with each other as follows:
Lisa Houseman======
I've decided to go all the way with Robbie.
Baby Houseman
No, not with someone like him.
Lisa Houseman
Do you think if we came back for a ten-year anniversary, it would be free?
Baby Houseman
It's just wrong this way. It should be with someone -- with someone that you sort of love.
Lisa Houseman
Come on. You don't care about me. You wouldn't care if I humped the entire army, as long as we were on the right side of the Ho Chi Minh Trail.
What you care about is that. You're not Daddy's girl anymore.
He listens when I talk now. You hate that.
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On the night of Thursday, August 29 -- after the Sheldrake performance and Penny Johnson's abortion complications, Baby had gone to Johnny's cabin and seduced him. During the day of Friday, August 30, Baby had gone back to Johnny's cabin and had fun with him in bed again.
Soon after the Houseman family arrived at Kellerman's Mountain House on August 10, she began going steady with Robbie Gould. They had an argument about sex during a meeting at the golf course on August 23. They argued because he wanted to advance to third base whereas she insisted on staying on second base during this stage of their going-steady relationship. In other words, Lisa thought she should allow Robbie to touch her breasts but should not touch his penis, even through his clothes.
Although Lisa and Robbie argued about their sexual progress on that evening, they might have continued to go steady in the following days. However, on the day after the golf-course argument, Baby threatened Robbie to stay away from Lisa or else Baby would get Robbie fired from his job. Lisa was not aware of Baby's threat or about the accusation that he had made Penny pregnant. Because of Baby's threat, Robbie perhaps avoided further contact with Lisa, whereas Lisa thought that they still were involved with each other.
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When Lisa uses the expression to "go all the way" during her bedroom conversation with Baby, she does not mean to have sexual intercourse. Lisa does not have any condoms, and she does not have any way to get any condoms during the following day. Lisa might know that Robbie had some condoms when she met with him at the golf course, but that was a week ago. She cannot count on him having any condoms if she surprises him in his room.
Rather, Lisa has decided to go all the way to third base with Robbie. She will masturbate his penis. She will keep her panties on and will allow him to rub his penis against her covered crotch. In other words, she will allow Robbie to hump her. There are two kinds of humping:
1) In dry humping, the man keeps his pants on and rubs his crotch against the woman's clothed crotch. He ejaculates into his undershorts.
2) In wet humping, the man's penis is exposed and he rubs it against the woman's clothed crotch.
Baby and Johnny had not gone any farther than humping. On Thursday night, during their first sexual encounter, they had dry-humped. During the rainy Friday afternoon, Baby returned to Johnny's cabin and got into bed with him again, and this time the movie audience saw that he was completely naked. Baby and Johnny might have gone as far as wet humping, but Baby kept her panties on.
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Now when Lisa and Baby are lying in their beds and talking with each other, Lisa uses the expression humped the entire army because Baby has confided to Lisa that she and Johnny have humped with each other.
Baby's talk about humping with Johnny has aroused Lisa to her own decision to go all the way to hump with Robbie.
Although Baby is younger than Lisa, she now is sexually more experienced, and so she feels entitled to instruct Lisa that she should hump "only with someone you sort of love".
Baby's condescending remark angers Lisa, who bites back with her remarks about humping "the entire army" and about "Daddy's girl".
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Lisa's phrase "as long as we were on the right side of the Ho Chi Minh Trail" is intended to insult Baby's opposition to US military involvement in Vietnam. Lisa seems to put the following distinction into Baby's mouth:
* Lisa should not hump the entire army of South Vietnam, because its government is a corrupt military dictatorship.The "right side of the Ho Chi Minh Trail" -- the entire army of which Baby would allow Lisa to hump -- is the northern side.
* Lisa may hump he entire army of North Vietnam, because its government is a socialist democracy.
In an earlier scene, Lisa had expressed her concern about The Domino Theory, and she apparently supported the US Government's efforts to help the South Vietnamese Government resist Communist infiltration from North Vietnam through the Ho Chi Minh Trail.
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| The Ho Chi Minh Trail |
In 1959, Hanoi established the 559th Transportation Group under the command of Colonel (later General) Võ Bẩm to improve and maintain a transportation system to supply the NLF [National Liberation Front] uprising against the South Vietnamese government. Originally, the North Vietnamese effort concentrated on infiltration across and immediately below the Demilitarized Zone that separated the two Vietnams. ....In 1963, when the Dirty Dancing story takes place, infiltration along the Ho Chi Minh Trail still was relatively small. The US military advisers in South Vietnam were not engaged yet in any operations against the Trail. In later years, US military forces' attacks on the Trail eventually included massive bombing.
By 1959, the 559th had 6,000 personnel in two regiments alone ... not including combat troops in security roles or North Vietnamese and Laotian civilian laborers. In the early days of the conflict the trail was used strictly for the infiltration of manpower. This was due to the fact that Hanoi could supply its southern allies much more efficiently by sea.
After the initiation of U.S. naval interdiction efforts in coastal waters ... the trail had to do double duty. Materiel sent from the north was stored in caches in the border regions that were soon retitled Base Areas, which, in turn, became sanctuaries for NLF and PAVN [People's Army of Vietnam] forces seeking respite and resupply after conducting operations within South Vietnam. ...
The notion of barefoot hordes pushing heavily-loaded bicycles, driving oxcarts, or acting as human pack animals, moving hundreds of tons of supplies in this manner was quickly supplanted by trucks (especially Soviet, Chinese, or Eastern Bloc models), which quickly became the main method of supply transportation. As early as December 1961, the 3rd Truck Transportation Group .... had become the first motor transport unit fielded by North Vietnamese to work the trail and the use of motor transport escalated.
In 1961 U.S. intelligence analysts estimated that 5,843 enemy infiltrators had moved south on the trail; in 1962, 12,675 in 1963, 7,693 in 1964. The supply capacity of the trail reached 20 to 30 tonnes per day in 1964 and it was estimated by the U.S. that 12,000 North Vietnamese regulars had reached South Vietnam that year.
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