Tuesday, August 29, 2017

How far did Lisa and Robbie go sexually?

As Lisa and Baby Houseman were trying on wigs, Robbie approached Lisa. Robbie and Lisa discussed his intention to buy an Alfa Romeo automobile with his tip money.

Robbie and Lisa discuss his intention to buy a car.
Then Lisa talked with Baby.
Lisa Houseman
Baby, would you cover for me tonight? Tell Mom and Dad I went to lie down.

Baby Houseman
Where are you going?

Lisa Houseman
To the golf course. There's a pretty view from the first tee.
Of course, Lisa intended to engage in some sexual activity with Robbie. However, later that night Baby saw Lisa rushing out of the woods, followed by Robbie:
Lisa Houseman
Robbie. I don't hear an apology.

Robbie Gould
Go back to Mommy and Daddy and listen. Maybe you'll hear one in your dreams.
Obviously, Robbie tried to go further in the sexual activity than Lisa anticipated.

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Although Lisa and Robbie met at "the first tee", their sexual activity did not take place in the open. Robbie took Lisa into an enclosed place. Perhaps Robbie had a key to the clubhouse, which was located near the first tee. Perhaps there was some other nearby structure, such as an equipment shed.

Lisa was afraid to be seen or caught doing sexual activity. She was afraid that her parents would find out merely that she went to a secluded location with Robbie. Robbie understood Lisa's fears, and so he arranged to take Lisa into a place where she would feel safe from being seen by passers-by.

Therefore, Lisa did not become angry at Robbie because she felt he had exposed her naked private body parts to other people.

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The encounter at the golf course was the third sexual encounter between Lisa and Robbie.

1) The Houseman family had arrived at the Kellerman resort hotel in the mid-day of Saturday, August 10, 1963. That evening, Robbie was introduced to the Houseman family when he was their waiter at their dinner in the hotel's restaurant. After Robbie finished his work shift, he changed into a suit and then danced with Lisa in the ballroom. After they danced, Robbie took Lisa to a nearby secluded location, where they talked and kissed.

Thus they reached the sexual first base, which is defined as kissing, including open-mouth (or French) kissing.

2) On Sunday evening, Robbie and Lisa met again on the hotel's main grounds. Again they went to a nearby secluded location, where they went beyond kissing. This time Robbie fondled Lisa's breasts through (not under) her blouse and bra, and she caressed his torso and arms. All this touching was on top of the clothes, because their location was not so secluded that they could not be seen by passers-by.

Thus they reached the sexual second base, which is defined as petting above the waist, including touching, feeling, and fondling the chest, breasts, and nipples.

3) On Monday evening, Robbie and Lisa met on the golf course and went into an enclosed structure. Lisa felt reasonably sure that she would not be seen by passers-by, and so she was ready to go further in her sexual activities with Robbie. Lisa would allow Robbie to remove her blouse and bra and would allow him to fondle and kiss her naked breasts. Meanwhile, she would remove Robbie's shirt and caress his naked shoulders and chest. Lisa figured that she and Robbie had not completed their second-base experience yet, and she was happy to complete it in this third encounter.

Thus they completed the second-base experience by petting each other's naked skin above the waist.

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However, Robbie had counted the base progression differently. According to his calculation, he and she on this third encounter were supposed to reach third base, which is defined as petting or orally stimulating below the waist, including touching, feeling, and fondling the vagina, clitoris, penis, or testicles.

To be more specific, Robbie expected Lisa to masturbate his naked penis to orgasm. Meanwhile he would return the favor by petting her panty-covered crotch -- if she allowed him to do so. (If she did not allow him to do so, then their encounter would happily require much less unnecessary bother for him.)

This misunderstanding about the proper sexual base made Lisa angry and then made Robbie angry. When Robbie persisted in putting Lisa's hand onto his pants-covered penis, she became angry and demanded that he not merely stop but also apologize. She refused to even rub his penis through his pants. The encounter ended when the two left the golf course and returned to the hotel's main grounds as she continued to demand an apology and he mocked her as childish.

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Lisa felt that third base still was too far in relation to the progress that she and Robbie had made in the process of going steady, which had the following seven characteristics:
1. Visible token

Probably when Robbie broke up with Penny Johnson, he got back his college-fraternity pin, and then he gave it to Lisa already on their second date. In return, Lisa gave Robbie a photograph of herself. So, their going-steady relationship did have this characteristic.

2. Required Dates

Lisa and Robbie had met and at least talked and kissed every day since the Houseman family had arrived. Both of them expected that they would continue to do so every day. So, their going-steady relationship did have this characteristic.

3. Exclusivity

Robbie and Lisa still had not declared their love to each other. They still had not made a rule not to be involved romantically with other people. So, their going-steady relationship did NOT have this characteristic.

4. Oversight

Robbie and Lisa had not known each other long enough to know each other's individual whereabouts and activities all the time. So, their going-steady relationship did NOT have this characteristic.

5. Special Events

Robbie and Lisa had danced with each other in the ballroom on that first Saturday evening, and they expected to dance together whenever the band was playing and he was not working in the restaurant. So, their going-steady relationship did have this characteristic.

6. Sharing Money

Their relationship did begin to acquire this characteristic on Monday mid-day, when they discussed his tip earning and his intention to buy an Alfa Romeo automobile -- an intention for which Lisa expressed her approval.

It was this progress in their going-steady relationship that caused Lisa to agree to complete their second-base sexual activities by granting Robbie access to her naked breasts.

7. Intimacy

As Lisa and Robbie developed their going-steady relationship, they progressed accordingly through second base. Lisa felt that second base was the right base for them to be on, whereas Robbie thought that they should be moving onto third base.
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This relationship between 1) going steady and 2) progressing through the sexual bases is quite clear to Baby Boomers, but not to the younger people who belong to Generation X, Generation Y and Millennials. The latter three generations grew up not with the going-steady courtship convention but rather with the intercourse-on-the-third-date courtship convention.

Millennials, for example, who watch Dirty Dancing calculate that the encounter on the golf course was the third date of Lisa and Robbie, and therefore the couple was supposed to have sexual intercourse. Because Lisa apparently refused to do so -- so think dopey Millennials -- Lisa was too prudish and violated the courtship convention.

In 1963, however, the very idea of an intercourse-on-the-third date rule was outlandish -- especially for upper-middle-class young people like Robbie and Lisa. Even Robbie thought that the golf-course date was too soon to reach home base.

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Lisa acted properly in accordance with the 1963 going-steady rules by refusing to touch his pants-covered penis, by putting her bra and blouse back on, and by terminating their second-base encounter. She was setting the limits and punishing Robbie for going too far too fast.

If Robbie wanted to reach third base with Lisa, then he would have to make more progress in the list of going-steady characteristics. Probably the most important item for Lisa was that Robbie would have to establish exclusivity -- to convince Lisa that he would not be involved with other women.

In general, the young women controlled the progression through the sexual bases. Therefore, Lisa's decision that she and he should stay on second base during this encounter was her prerogative. Robbie should have been satisfied to see her beautiful naked breasts and to fondle and to kiss them. Robbie was wrong to persist in rushing her to involve his silly penis directly in their activities. Robbie was wrong to make Lisa angry, and he was doubly wrong to mock her because she had properly set their limit.

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When Lisa and Robbie rushed out of the woods while arguing, they were seen by Baby and Neil. Although it was obvious that Robbie had tried to go too far with Lisa, Baby and Neil were nonchalant. The latter couple knew that Lisa and Robbie had become involved with each other for only a few days ago. Baby and Neil figured correctly that Lisa and Robbie had gone no further than second base, and so Robbie had done really nothing worse than paw Lisa's breasts. Therefore, neither Baby nor Neil felt compelled to intervene.

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Later, toward the end of family vacation at the resort, Lisa confided to Baby:
I've decided tonight's the night with Robbie. He doesn't even know yet.
Nobody should think that Lisa intended to have sexual intercourse with Robbie. Rather, she intended merely to go to third base with him. "Tonight is the night" for third base -- is what she was thinking.

Lisa intended to surprise Robbie in his cabin. There they would talk and kiss. They would apologize to each other for their golf-course misunderstanding. She would allow him to remove her blouse and bra and to fondle and kiss her naked breasts. Then she would fondle his penis through his pants. Finally she would bare his penis and masturbate him to orgasm.

That would be enough for both of them. She did not really want him to paw her crotch, even through her panties, because she wanted to maintain her control of herself. She was afraid that if she became too aroused then she might allow Robbie to advance to home base.

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Lisa intended to advance to third base with Robbie on one of her last days at the Kellerman resort. Robbie had made no progress with Lisa in relationship to the going-steady characteristics. On the contrary, Lisa knew from watching Robbie that he was involved with other women -- in particular with Vivian Pressman.

Nevertheless, Lisa decided to advance to third base with Robbie on one of her last evenings at the resort. Her considerations were as follows:

* She already had advanced to third base with previous boyfriends.This would not be the first time she ever gave a boy a hand-job. She was curious to see, feel and explode Robbie's penis. Giving hand-jobs to handsome young men was fun.

* She had enjoyed her naked-second-base experience with Robbie at the golf course. She had enjoyed seeing this handsome, admirable man being excited by her naked breasts. She had enjoyed being touched there and had enjoyed touching his naked torso. She had re-lived that enjoyment in her private thoughts repeatedly during her three-week stay at the resort. She wanted to experience it again before she left.

*  Lisa knew that Baby had spent much time dancing with Johnny Castle. She did not want to feel that she herself was surpassed by her younger sister Baby in sexual adventures during this vacation.

* Although Lisa essentially had broken up with Robbie, she still liked him and felt sorry that their relationship had been interrupted. She wanted to make up with him and pleasure him so that they would part on good terms.

* Lisa hoped that her relationship with Robbie might continue. Maybe Robbie would invite Lisa to visit him at Yale if he could count on getting at least a lot of hand-jobs from her during her visit. Robbie was an extremely marriageable man. Lisa still might be able to involve herself with him in a romantic relationship.

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When Lisa opened the door of Robbie's cabin, she saw that he was having sexual intercourse with Vivian Pressman, an older, married woman. For various reasons, Robbie's relationship with Vivian was not a going-steady relationship -- as his brief relationship with Lisa had been developing into.

Because Lisa would depart within a couple of days, she would not have enough time to rationalize his promiscuity to herself and to resolve her concerns with him. When Lisa saw Robbie having sexual intercourse with Vivian, Lisa's potential romantic future with Robbie ended.

Lisa's giving teenage-girl hand-jobs to Robbie could not compete with Vivian's giving him adult-woman vaginal intercourse. Lisa would simply find herself a new, decent boyfriend who did not have the complications of too-promiscuous Robbie Gould.

3 comments:

  1. How do you know all of this about what Robbie and Lisa did sexually? Are these your assumptions? She tells Baby in their bedroom that she decided to go all the way with Robbie, so I'm not sure why you assume she only intended 3rd base when she went and caught him with Vivian.

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  2. See my later article titled "What Lisa meant by 'to go all the way with Robbie'"

    http://dirty-dancing-analysis.blogspot.com/2018/05/what-lisa-meant-by-to-go-all-way-with.html

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  3. I wish the movie would have showed Lisa n Robbie more into what they were up to I felt Soo lost when you see them coming from the golf course i mean there's a story there not just baby's n Jonny's jmo!

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